hayesk
Jul 26, 04:02 PM
They most certainly did have physical feedback. You had to touch them to activate the buttons or drag your finger across the scroll wheel to use it. This would constitute a tactile feedback, even if there is no click.
Just touching it is not tactile feedback. That would be like saying a piece of paper provides feedback if you touch it. Feedback means a signal is sent back to the user to acknowledge the the pressing of the control. The 3G iPod buttons gave an audio click - that is aural feedback. They also showed things on the screen - that is visual feedback. But they didn't spring, or have a physical barrier that you push through, so there was no tactile feedback (i.e. nothing that can be physically felt) to let you know that you pressed the button.
When you press a button on a dead iPod, it does nothing, and it feels exactly the same as pressing a button on a working iPod - no tactile feedback.
What you're describing is far less revolutionary, and wouldn't really constitute a none-touch interface.
Who said it was revolutionary? And it could consitute a none-touch interface. It depends on if the patent is describing the control or the entire iPod. If there is a cover, you are not touching the control (the screen underneath), but the cover over it - hence none-touch.
The current displays all have a durable, transparent cover over them, and they still get scratches and finger prints from handling. I think the reason that this interface idea is so exciting is that it offers the possibility of having a full screen for viewing without needing to worry about the act of touching the screen for controls making the screen dirty so you can't watch.
A better (i.e. more scratch-proof) cover would be better. Who cares about fingerprints? You can clean those off. I don't want to hover my finger over something to control it - I'd always have to be careful not to touch the screen (unless it was durable). Not very good when on a bus, train etc., where the vehicle is shaking.
Just touching it is not tactile feedback. That would be like saying a piece of paper provides feedback if you touch it. Feedback means a signal is sent back to the user to acknowledge the the pressing of the control. The 3G iPod buttons gave an audio click - that is aural feedback. They also showed things on the screen - that is visual feedback. But they didn't spring, or have a physical barrier that you push through, so there was no tactile feedback (i.e. nothing that can be physically felt) to let you know that you pressed the button.
When you press a button on a dead iPod, it does nothing, and it feels exactly the same as pressing a button on a working iPod - no tactile feedback.
What you're describing is far less revolutionary, and wouldn't really constitute a none-touch interface.
Who said it was revolutionary? And it could consitute a none-touch interface. It depends on if the patent is describing the control or the entire iPod. If there is a cover, you are not touching the control (the screen underneath), but the cover over it - hence none-touch.
The current displays all have a durable, transparent cover over them, and they still get scratches and finger prints from handling. I think the reason that this interface idea is so exciting is that it offers the possibility of having a full screen for viewing without needing to worry about the act of touching the screen for controls making the screen dirty so you can't watch.
A better (i.e. more scratch-proof) cover would be better. Who cares about fingerprints? You can clean those off. I don't want to hover my finger over something to control it - I'd always have to be careful not to touch the screen (unless it was durable). Not very good when on a bus, train etc., where the vehicle is shaking.
nies
Apr 28, 12:09 PM
This just got real crazy
bcaslis
Apr 22, 01:22 AM
Cool. Then in a couple months, when the new macbook air is released and its as thin, or thinner than the current model AND includes a backlit keyboard, you'll come back here and admit you were ignorant, right?
Wow, are you this much of a jerk in person?
Wow, are you this much of a jerk in person?
plinden
Oct 18, 04:21 PM
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TwoSocEmBoppers
Mar 15, 02:56 AM
I am going to head out to mine at around 8 AM when the mall opens and the apple store is opening 1 hour early so at 9 AM hopefully I can grab my 16GB 3G ATT.
Brea is opening early?!
Brea is opening early?!
Micjose
Apr 22, 05:01 PM
this sounds like a bunch of bull, the iphone 4 is complete great the way it is. Why degrade it?
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philgilder
Mar 31, 10:28 AM
it looked way better in the last version of lion.
that is seriously ugly, although it works on the ipad.
that is seriously ugly, although it works on the ipad.
jowie
Apr 14, 03:38 AM
If there were so many problems with the white iPhone 4, how come Stephen Fry has had one (and used it) from the beginning?
:rolleyes:
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Moyank24
Apr 27, 12:21 PM
I'm torn between joe and nies...But for now, I'll stick with my original vote. eldiablojoe
cthomas1489
May 2, 10:16 AM
Will an apple store employee tell me if I harass them all day or bribe them with monies? Or don't they know either? :confused:
More times than not they don't really know in advance. If it is tomorrow, I'm sure a few employees might know who stay with the night crew to set up but they are pretty good at keeping they're lips sealed. Someone I used to work with now works part time at a store I'm gonna see if I can contact him and see if he knows anything.
More times than not they don't really know in advance. If it is tomorrow, I'm sure a few employees might know who stay with the night crew to set up but they are pretty good at keeping they're lips sealed. Someone I used to work with now works part time at a store I'm gonna see if I can contact him and see if he knows anything.
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Chundles
Oct 24, 08:28 AM
aswitcher, could you explain a bit more to me what you mean by
"802.11n pending firmware upgrade..." since you're the first to mention this at all? Does anyone know if this new MBP will have 802.11n at all (for the iTV)?
802.11n isn't due for ratification until 2008. There is a "Draft N v 2.0" due out next year that is supposedly close to what 802.11n will be but there's no guarantee anything will work until the final spec is released in 2008.
"802.11n pending firmware upgrade..." since you're the first to mention this at all? Does anyone know if this new MBP will have 802.11n at all (for the iTV)?
802.11n isn't due for ratification until 2008. There is a "Draft N v 2.0" due out next year that is supposedly close to what 802.11n will be but there's no guarantee anything will work until the final spec is released in 2008.
Glideslope
Apr 29, 03:46 PM
Cool!
I wonder if this is part of the labels' strategy to take power away from iTunes.
Interesting point. I'm sure the Department of Justice would love to know about any contact between Labels and Amazon in the past few months. :cool:
I wonder if this is part of the labels' strategy to take power away from iTunes.
Interesting point. I'm sure the Department of Justice would love to know about any contact between Labels and Amazon in the past few months. :cool:
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Abstract
Dec 29, 02:28 PM
The program in the US Army (basic training) was designed to burn 5000 calories a day. Basically you were moving 16 hours a day. Just can think of doing 12k or 30k calories a day.
Anyone know how many calories someone burns running a marathon?
Michael Phelps consumes 13000 calories/day, but he's a world-class athlete, not a world-class cow.
Anyone know how many calories someone burns running a marathon?
Michael Phelps consumes 13000 calories/day, but he's a world-class athlete, not a world-class cow.
likemyorbs
May 2, 12:37 AM
I think we should preserve his body and burn it at the site of ground zero this 9/11! How's that for a 10 year anniversary celebration?
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bizill
Apr 26, 01:38 PM
It'll be a pathetic excuse for a cloud if it'll only stream in the US (which if they continue with this 1 datacenter model will be the case). Amazon will beat them here, hands down. Have you seen how many datacenters they have?
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/11/18/where-amazons-data-centers-are-located/
^ That vs 1 datacenter...lets think...who's going to get the better performance...
Also, the point of the cloud is redundancy. What happens WHEN the 1 datacenter goes down (e.g power problems, network problems, natural disasters, etc)? Apple's will be wiped out in one move, Amazon just fail over to another DC location.
Uhhh, perhaps you missed the massive Amazon outage last week?
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/11/18/where-amazons-data-centers-are-located/
^ That vs 1 datacenter...lets think...who's going to get the better performance...
Also, the point of the cloud is redundancy. What happens WHEN the 1 datacenter goes down (e.g power problems, network problems, natural disasters, etc)? Apple's will be wiped out in one move, Amazon just fail over to another DC location.
Uhhh, perhaps you missed the massive Amazon outage last week?
lgreenberg
Apr 28, 04:40 PM
Confirmed by another OEM white iPhone owner.
https://twitter.com/mrkrazy1870/status/63719171464249344
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rjohnstone
Apr 29, 03:55 PM
I will have to take a look at DoubleTwist, again.
Just an FYI though, it won't sync over DRM content. That stuff is locked to iTunes and any iPod associated with the account.
It's based on demand. If it's still popular its more expensive - no matter how old it is.
The price increase from Apple was mainly done to have the music be DRM free.
Just an FYI though, it won't sync over DRM content. That stuff is locked to iTunes and any iPod associated with the account.
It's based on demand. If it's still popular its more expensive - no matter how old it is.
The price increase from Apple was mainly done to have the music be DRM free.
morespce54
Jul 26, 09:15 AM
so would this be incorporated into the upcoming iPod, or the "next" update to the iPod?
obviously in the next iPod (machine not sw) :(
obviously in the next iPod (machine not sw) :(
twilson
Oct 23, 09:55 AM
The more "interesting" restriction I saw (and mentioned in the other thread) was the "don't use DRM in a VM" restriction even with business or ultimate. :eek: :rolleyes:
B
Of course not, the DRM would then be transferrable. Which given the lack of DRM license backups, I think that is what most people will do.
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Of course not, the DRM would then be transferrable. Which given the lack of DRM license backups, I think that is what most people will do.
scruffybear22
Jun 6, 06:29 PM
OMG!!!!!!!!!!! My brother actually did this!!!!!!! This article is about my brother!!!!!!!!!!!! NO JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way, he is 10 not 11
Brien
Mar 12, 03:49 PM
Me too, something is better than nothing.
That doesn't make the sting from last night any better though; whoever is running the Brea store really dropped the ball last night.
That doesn't make the sting from last night any better though; whoever is running the Brea store really dropped the ball last night.
mandis
Aug 2, 09:13 AM
Wrong. Of course, sequestered in your teaching post-graduate architectural world you may not see the wood for the trees and in the readily-accepted use of the word, 'creatives' do not include those who use AutoCAD.
Wrong? Perhaps you are more informed in the fields of architecture and design and you could teach us a thing or two about what software to use.
Wrong? Perhaps you are more informed in the fields of architecture and design and you could teach us a thing or two about what software to use.
rovex
May 2, 04:35 AM
Great news! Shame its taken so long but at least we got him eventually! :D
Now lets hope this is declared a national holiday and Apple releases the new iMac with a discount to celebrate :D
WE didn't find him, it was our American friends! :D
Now lets hope this is declared a national holiday and Apple releases the new iMac with a discount to celebrate :D
WE didn't find him, it was our American friends! :D
sennekuyl
Apr 29, 02:17 AM
This is why Android phones are creeping up on iOS...they are offering more features and constant innovation in the hardware. iPhone users (and I used to be one) only enjoy hardware innovation once a year.
Maybe we will see an LTE iPhone in 2012, maybe not but I can say with all the certainty in the world that Android will have kick ass dual core LTE phones with large screens and probably something retina like in resolution by then. I wouldn't be surprised to see 12 MP cameras, 2-3 MP front cameras all running Android 2.4 Ice Cream Sandwich.
Where? Not is Oz. the HTC Desire is the last android that actually seemed to be worth buying. The desire HD is okay, but not that good. (plus it doesn't come on the Telstra's stupid NextG network.)
Most android phones seem to get the reviews: could do better. As far as I can tell, virtually all are regarded at best as just sub-par to the iPhone 4, except the Desire which is even older.
It pains me as I'd prefer a OSS base over proprietary, and both the HTC Desire & iphone4 seem to be reaching the end of their cycle. Then there is the reluctance of networks to upgrade the software, and the strange lack of syncing with anything other than official supported systems. Possible, but just too hard with plenty of caveats.
Maybe we will see an LTE iPhone in 2012, maybe not but I can say with all the certainty in the world that Android will have kick ass dual core LTE phones with large screens and probably something retina like in resolution by then. I wouldn't be surprised to see 12 MP cameras, 2-3 MP front cameras all running Android 2.4 Ice Cream Sandwich.
Where? Not is Oz. the HTC Desire is the last android that actually seemed to be worth buying. The desire HD is okay, but not that good. (plus it doesn't come on the Telstra's stupid NextG network.)
Most android phones seem to get the reviews: could do better. As far as I can tell, virtually all are regarded at best as just sub-par to the iPhone 4, except the Desire which is even older.
It pains me as I'd prefer a OSS base over proprietary, and both the HTC Desire & iphone4 seem to be reaching the end of their cycle. Then there is the reluctance of networks to upgrade the software, and the strange lack of syncing with anything other than official supported systems. Possible, but just too hard with plenty of caveats.
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